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It has come to our attention that Osama Abdallah is promoting more misinformation about Muhammad in the Bible. Muslims have consistently tried to find reasons to justify their prophet from the Bible in hope of convincing Christians that he is a legitamate follower of God. Osama appeals to Isaiah, a book that clearly promotes the Trinity which demonstrates his hypocracy on theological matters. Here is what he claimed on link below:
He believes that Muhummad an alleged prophet in the Bible and he begins by mentioning this:
First of all we must note that despite all of the Islamic propoganda and tongue twisting of verses, concepts and language in the Bible, Muhammad is never ever mentioned by name as being prophesied as a prophet or an apostle whatsoever in the Bible. Muslims have clearly stated that "they want Christians to show where Jesus claimed to be God" when they can't even show you where "Muhammad was mentioned as a prophet or a messenger of God". An example of Islamic tongue twisting is shown in the word "Machamad" and we must point out that Osama believes that the bible is corrupted. In this same corrupted book (along with trying to say that Muhammad was every word that looks like him) he tries to find is prophet:
To add further weight to these argument, let us take a closer look at this four character word. The way this word is written is Hebrew is . That happens to be the EXACT same way Muhammad's name is written in Hebrew
Contradicts
It is totally self-contradicting to find Muhammad in a book of the bible and then mention elsewhere that this VERY SAME BOOK is pornful and sick and isn't from God!! Even the word "MACHAMMADIM", which Osama uses is used to describe objects in Hebrew which implies that if you are talking about something lovely, etc., you are referring to Muhammad!! The only way that you can conclude this is Muhammad is to induce tons of wishful thinking and hope that everybody is blind and deaf enough to accept this conclusion. Hence we must also conclude that Muhammad, with the added proof given by Osama Abdallah is found in a pornful, sick man made book written by some pornhungry guy! This means that
1. Muhammad is a porno prophet
2. Man made tampering prophesied Muhammad
3. Muhammad is a prophet prophesied in a porn book not written by God therefore he isn't a prophet of God but of porn.
4. Islam is a religion that verifies porn.
This is how these Muslim apologist think my friend when it comes to propogating Islam. One day the Bible prohesies Muhammad, the next day it isn't from God or is pornful. Now the question that begs to be answered is "If the Bible isn't from God and Muhammad is found in it then how can Muhamamd be a prophet of God"? or "If you don't know if all the Bible isn't from God how do you know these verses with Muhammad are from God"? The only answer they could give is to claim that the Quran allegeds that Muhammad is found in previous scriptures. The problem with this assesment is that you must falliciously assume that the Quran is true without verifying that it is true and then read it back into Christianity while the Quran tells you to verify its text from earlier scriptures which is the exact opposite of what Muslims do today!! These Muslim propogandists must say that the bible is corrupted etc one day and then find their own corrupted prophet in this same book. Here is what Osama says:
In Isaiah 60:1-7, A prophecy about a Holy man (prophet) bringing the light of God to the world. This holy man would appear in a time of darkness filling the world and covering the earth, He would appear to eliminate the darkness and spread the light of God and his praises.
It should be noted that this passage says mentions nothing about a man appearing (Well the MAN YHWH JESUS is different but we mean any normal human man). Read what verse 2 says:
Que-This verse clearly says that YHWH will arise among men. Here is who YHWH is:
and,
We furnish more proof on "YHWH" from historical Jewish and Biblical references. Here is what they say about YHWH:
Says the Gesenius Hebrew-English Lexicon of this name,
The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia adds the following information:
In the light of these and other facts, says the Jewish Universal Encyclopedia,
The Torah: A Modern Commentary, adds that:
Says the New Dictionary of the Bible:
"In particular, Yahweh was the God of the Patriarchs, and we read of 'Yahweh the God (Elohim) of Abraham' and then of Isaac and finally 'Yahweh, the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob,' concerning which Elohim says , 'this is my name for ever' (Exo.3:15). Yahweh, therefore, in contrast to Elohim, is a PROPER NOUN, the name of a Person, though that Person is divine. As such, it has its own ideological setting: it presents God as a Person, and so brings Him into relationship with other, human, personalities. It brings God near to man, and He speaks to the Patriarchs as one friend to another" (p.478).
YHWH is the "Proper Name of the One true God" as well as the Jewish national name. Even Osama Abdallah says that YHWH or Jehovah is God on his trinity pages located at this link:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/trinity.htm
According to Osama these same Jews corrupted the Bible so much until it was turned into a lie:
See Also Deuteronomy 31:25-29 where Moses peace be upon him predicted the corruption/tampering of the Law (Bible) after his death.
The Book of Moses predicted that the Law (Bible) will get corrupted. The Book of Jeremiah which came approximately 826 years after did indeed confirm this corruption.
(ibid)From his own information, Muslim apologist, Osama Abdallah has shown us that:
1. The Jews corrupted the Bible
2. Moses said that it would happen after his death.
3. Jeremiah confirmed this to be true.
So therefore we must conclude that:
1. Muhammad is predicted by a Jewish corrupted bible
2. Since the corruption happened after Moses and was verified by Jeremiah then Muhammad could only be a prophet based on false Jewish information!!!
3. Muhammad is a prophet of porn, and corruption making him a false prophet!!
Also since YHWH is used in this passage and it shows that the people would see YHWH we must conclude that Muhammad is YHWH's glory or YHWH!!!
Osama continues:
In Isaiah 60:5-6 it keeps telling us about the coming of the people from all over the world to the Light.
In trying to tie Muhammad into this prophesy Osama abdallah unknowingly has committed a shirk (an unforgivable sin) in Islam since he doesn't know what his own Quran has to say about "light". In order to validate if this prophesy was true we must ask this question "First of all did the Quran actually say that Muhammad was any light?" Read this from Surah "Al NOOR, THE LIGHT" from the Quran:
Light of the World S. 24:35
PICKTHAL: ALLAH IS THE LIGHT of the heavens and the earth. The similitude of His light is as a niche wherein is a lamp. The lamp is in a glass. The glass is as it were a shining star. (This lamp is) kindled from blessed tree, an olive neither of the East nor of the West, whose oil would almost glow forth (of itself) though no fire touched it. Light upon light. Allah guideth unto His light whom He will. And Allah speaketh to mankind in allegories, for Allah is Knower of all things.
SHAKIR: ALLAH IS THE LIGHT of the heavens and the earth; a likeness of His light is as a niche in which is a lamp, the lamp is in a glass, (and) the glass is as it were a brightly shining star, lit from a blessed olive-tree, neither eastern nor western, the oil whereof almost gives light though fire touch it not-- light upon light-- Allah guides to His light whom He pleases, and Allah sets forth parables for men, and Allah is Cognizant of all things. S. 24:35
According to the Quran, Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth, not Muhammad. If we adhere to Osama's faulty conclusion we would in fact have to assume that Muhammad is Allah the god of Islam!!! If only God is the light of the world in the Quran, claiming that someone else is this light is in fact deifying that person to the position of God!! Ironically in the bible, it explains who the light of the world is:
"As long as I am in the world, I am THE LIGHT of the world." John 9:5 A.V.
Jesus did claim to be the light of the world, which would make him God according to the Quranic exegesis!! If Muslims are to object then we would have to conclude that the Quran, which they so desperately try to verify is false. See how these Muslims deify their false prophet by trying to interpolate him into the Bible!!!! According to Osama, "Muhammad is God" which contradicts his very own Quran!!
The embarrasing thing about Muhammad, Kedar and Osama's false prophecy is this:
We proceed with these Biblical commentataries on this verse:
the residue of their number,
when they are reduced to a small number,
shall be diminished (v. 17);
their mighty able-bodied men, and men of spirit too, SHALL BECOME VERY FEW; for they, being most forward in the defence of their country, were most exposed, and fell first, either by the enemies’ sword or into the enemies’ hand. Note, Neither the skill of archers (though they be ever so good marksmen) nor the courage of mighty men can protect a people from the THE JUDGMENTS OF GOD, when they come with commission; they rather expose the undertakers. That is poor glory which will thus quickly come to nothing. V. All this shall be done in a little time:
"Within one year according to the years of a hireling
(within one year precisely reckoned) this judgment shall come upon Kedar.’’ If this fixing of the time be of no great use to us now (because we find not either when the prophecy was delivered or when it was accomplished), yet it might be of great use to the Arabians then, to awaken them to repentance, that, like the men of Nineveh, they might prevent the judgment when they were thus told it was just at the door. Or, when it begins to be fulfilled, the business shall be done, be begun and ended in one year’s time. God, when he please, can do a great work in a little time. VI. It is all ratified by the truth of God
(v. 16); "Thus hath the Lord said to me;
you may take my word for it that it is his word;’’ and we may be sure no word of his shall fall to the ground. And again (v. 17):
The Lord God of Israel hath spoken it,
as the God of Israel, in pursuance of his gracious designs concerning them; and we may be sure the strength of Israel will not lie. (Matthew Henry Commentary on Isaiah 21:15-17 found online)
and,
The Assyrian armies laid siege upon the Arabs in 732 B. C., with Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon following suit. In fact, Nebuchadnezzar defeated the people of Kedar during his reign in 599-598 B. C. (c.f. Jeremiah 49:28-33). Hence we must conclude that God is giving a defeated light to the world!! This would mean that Islam is defeated before it even got off the ground!! Also read what Ps 120:5 says (as shown in the last commentary):
Gives a new meaning to the term "Dirty rotten scoundrel" doesn't it? Yep. Osama continues:
First of all notice, Osama fallacy here in which he has assumed that the Kaaba is the sacred house of God's glory. But we find nowhere in which the word Kaaba is mentioned in the bible so how can Osama legitametly prove that this is the truth? He has to resort to propoganda and read this back into the Bible. If you read his site closely, particularly in his "trinity sections" you will recognize that he continuously issues this challenge "show me where Jesus claimed to be God". If you can't answer his challenge then it would mean that Jesus isn't God since we never see him say this in the Bible, acording to Osama.
One must immediately recognize the hypocracy of this stance since Osama is trying to prove that the Kaaba is the sacred house mentioned in the Bible. We must ask him this question, "So how can you prove the Kaaba which isn't even mentioned?" The same Bible that this propogandist uses mentions this about the "TEMPLE and the HOUSE OF GOD"
The duty of the Levites was to help Aaron's descendants in the service of THE TEMPLE OF THE LORD : to be in charge of the courtyards, the side rooms, the purification of all sacred things and the performance of other duties AT THE HOUSE OF GOD. 1 Chronicles 23:28
All these men were under the supervision of their fathers for the music of THE TEMPLE OF THE LORD , with cymbals, lyres and harps, for the ministry at THE HOUSE OF GOD. Asaph, Jeduthun and Heman were under the supervision of the king. 1 Chronicles 25:6
"However, in the first year of Cyrus king of Babylon, King Cyrus issued a decree TO REBUILD THIS HOUSE OF GOD. He even removed from the temple of Babylon the gold and silver articles of THE HOUSE OF GOD, which Nebuchadnezzar had taken from THE TEMPLE IN JERUSALEM and brought to the temple in Babylon. "Then King Cyrus gave them to a man named Sheshbazzar, whom he had appointed governor, and he told him, 'Take these articles and go and deposit them IN THE TEMPLE IN JERUSALEM. AND REBUILD THE HOUSE OF GOD ON ITS SITE.' Ezra 5:13-15
Also, the gold and silver articles of THE HOUSE OF GOD, which Nebuchadnezzar took from the temple IN JERUSALEM and brought to Babylon, are to be returned to their places IN THE TEMPLE IN JERUSALEM; they are to be deposited IN THE HOUSE OF GOD. Now then, Tattenai, governor of Trans-Euphrates, and Shethar-Bozenai and you, their fellow officials of that province, stay away from there. Do not interfere with the work ON THIS TEMPLE OF GOD. Let the governor of the Jews and the Jewish elders rebuild THIS HOUSE OF GOD on its site. Moreover, I hereby decree what you are to do for these elders of the Jews in the CONSTRUCTION OF THIS HOUSE OF GOD: Ezra 6:5-8
One day I went to the house of Shemaiah son of Delaiah, the son of Mehetabel, who was shut in at his home. He said, "Let us meet in THE HOUSE OF GOD, INSIDE THE TEMPLE, and let us close the temple doors, because men are coming to kill you-by night they are coming to kill you." Nehemiah 6:10
One thing I ask of the Lord , this is what I seek: that I may dwell in the THE HOUSE OF THE LORD all the days of my life, to gaze upon the beauty of the Lord and to SEEK HIM IN HIS TEMPLE. 27:4
Blessed are those you choose and bring near to live in your courts! We are filled with the good things OF YOUR HOUSE, OF YOUR HOLY TEMPLE. Psalm 65:4
Therefore, what I did to Shiloh I will now do to THE HOUSE that bears my Name, THE TEMPLE you trust in, the place I gave to you and your fathers. Jeremiah 7:14
This is what the Lord Almighty says: "You who now hear these words spoken by the prophets who were there when the foundation was laid for THE HOUSE OF THE LORD ALMIGHTY, let your hands be strong so that THE TEMPLE MAY BE BUILT. Zec 8:9
It is totally incredulous to believe that Isaiah 60 is talking about Muhammad and the Kaaba. We would be forced to conclude that:
1. The Kaaba was originally the Temple
2. That it was located in Jerusalem not Mecca, which would make this a false prophecy!
3. If the Kaaba was in Israel, THEN IT CAN'T BE IN ARABIA?
What Osama has shown us after all of his manipulation and tricks is that Muhammad could be called God, Kedar a defeated power by Nebuchudnezzer, is a light and that the Kaaba is the temple in Jerusalem!! Talk about reintepreting history!!!
Surah Al Hajj (the pilgrimage) 22,
26. Behold! We gave the site, to Abraham, of the (Sacred) House, (saying): "Associate not anything (in worship) with Me; and sanctify My House for those who compass it round, or stand up, or bow, or prostrate themselves (therein in prayer).
27. "And proclaim the Pilgrimage among men: they will come to thee on foot and (mounted) on every kind of camel, lean on account of journeys through deep and distant mountain highways; "
(The Noble Quran, 22:26-27)
Osama again exposes his ignorance of his pagan Quran and by using this same fallacious method we would be forced to conclude that the Kaaba is in Jerusalem still!!! The following commentary on S. 17:1 AND THE CONCEPT OF WHAT THE SACRED HOUSE IN THE QURAN IS comes from Tafsir Ibn Kathir-Abridged Volume 5, Surah Hud to Surat Al-Isra', Verse 38, abridged by a group of scholars under the supervision of Shaykh Safiur-Rahman Al-Mubarakpuri, (Darussalam Publishers & Distributors; Riyadh, Houston, New York, Lahore, July 2000):
Ibn Kathir includes the following hadith:
The Sacred house is the temple mount in Jerusalem which Osama's palestinian people are fighting over right now!! He doesn't even know his own Quran, Islamic history and he totally embarassed Islam by misplacing the Kaaba, Islam's holy shrine, from Arabia to Israel!!
In Deuteronomy 18:18 We find God said to Moses the following:
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."
Regarding this verse, Christians used to interpret it as a prophecy about the coming of the Messiah, and Christian missionaries used to invent so many things to prove the similarity between Jesus and Moses (peace be upon them),but it's self-refuting claim, as it can be refuted by a single verse from Deuteronomy, let's read..
Deuteronomy 34:10 And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,
So this verse from Deuteronomy refutes the claim of "Prophet like unto Moses" to be Jesus (peace be upon them) as Jesus was one of the Prophets of Israel.
Regards,
Your brother in Islam,
Salam (Peace)
First of all we find Osama's appeal to Deuteronomy 18:18 hilarious since this same book specifies what "bretheren" means in the very first two verses:
Once more, in chapter 17:14-15 the Israelites are told to put one of their "brethren" as king over them, never a foreigner. The fact is that Israel at no time in their history have ever put an Ishmaelite "brother" as king, but always an Israelite i.e. Saul, David, proving that the word does not refer to any nation outside of the twelve tribes of Israel:
Here the phrase "from among your own brothers" is clearly defined as referring to a "brother Israelite", not a descendant of Ishmael. Furthermore, this is exactly parallel to the Quranic usage in the Late Meccan Sura of the Heights (Al-A'raf) 7:65,73, where it says:
"And to the `Aad people (We sent) their brother, Hud. He said, `O my people, worship God'...""And to the Thamud (We sent) their brother, Salih..."
In his French translation of the Qur'an[16], Muhammad Hamidullah has a special note here which reads:
"The Arabic word akh signifies both brother and member of the tribe". (italics his)
The Hebrew word for brother is also "akh", and can also signify both brother and member of the tribe. In the above passages from Deuteronomy it is being used in exactly the same way—to speak of one who is a member of the same tribe. Clearly God is saying to the Children of Israel:
If two brothers (Isaac and Ishmael) have kids their descendents are COUSINS NOT BROTHERS!!
So according to Muslims if your children (as in this case Abraham's two sons- Isaac, Ishmael) have kids of their own (their descendents-Jews, Arabs) they are brothers and sisters instead of cousins!! You see how these Muslim apologists have to twist words and terms in order for them to fit their pagan prophet into the Bible. Finally, the Quran bears witness that Muhammad was not the Prophet like Moses, since he could not do what the latter did:
Even more amazing than the Quran bearing witness that Muhammad was unlike Moses, is the fact that the earliest Muslim biographer, Ibn Ishaq, in his Sira RasulAllah, testifies that Moses wrote of Jesus:
It is the Gospel of Jesus not the Quran of Muhammad that was prophesied in Deuteronomy. Also we want to point out this little nugget in Osama's comment:
Deuteronomy 34:10 And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,
So this verse from Deuteronomy refutes the claim of "Prophet like unto Moses" to be Jesus (peace be upon them) as Jesus was one of the Prophets of Israel.
First of all if Osama claims that Christians are inventing ideas he has to provide proof of this accusation verifying his stance instead of making baseless claims. He mentioned that Deuteronomy 34:10 refutes Christians so lets look into what this verse says:
According to this scripture this future prophet who was liken to Moses would know the LORD and see him face to face as a requirement. We know in the bible that Moses did literally see God:
The Bible clearly shows that Moses knew God face to face and saw him. The Quran verifies this same matter although maintaining the fact that Moses didn't literally see God's form but the fire, which was God's glory (So the literal face to face in the bible isn't the same in the Quran which says that Allah doesn't have a form):
Behold! Moses said to his family "I perceive A fire; soon will I bring you From there some information, Or I will Bring you A burning brand to light our fuel That ye may Warm yourselves." But when he came To the (Fire), a voice Was heard: "Blessed are those In the Fire and those around: AND GLORY TO GOD, THE LORD OF THE WORLDS. "O Moses! VERILY I AM GOD, THE EXALTED IN MIGHT, THE WISE!... "Now do throw thy rod!" But when he saw it Moving (of its own accord) As if it had been a snake, He turned back in Retreat, And retraced not his steps: "O Moses!" (it was said), "Fear not: truly, in My presence, Those called as apostles Have no fear,- But if Any have done wrong And have thereafter substituted Good to take the place of the evil, Truly, I am Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. "Now put thy hand into Thy bosom, and it will Come forth white without stain (Or harm): (These are) among The nine Signs (thou wilt take) To Pharaoh and his people: For they are A people Rebellious in transgression." But when Our Signs came To them, that should opened their eyes, they said: "This is Sorcery manifest!" And they rejected those Signs In iniquity and arrogance, Though their Souls were convinced Thereof: so see what was The end of those Who acted corruptly. S. 27:7-14
Now when Moses had fulfilled The term, and was traveling With his family, he perceived A fire in the direction of Mount Tur. He said To his family: "Tarry ye; I perceive a fire; I hope To bring you from there Some information, or a burning Firebrand that ye may warm yourselves." But when he came To the (Fire), a voice was heard from the right back Of the valley, from a tree In hallowed ground: "O Moses! VERILY I AM GOD, THE LORD OF THE WORLDS... Now do thou throw thy rod! But when he saw it Moving (of its own accord) As if it had been a snake, He turned back in retreat and retraced not his steps: "O Moses!" (It was said), "Draw near, and fear not; For thou art of those Who are secure. "Move thy hand into thy bosom, and it will Come forth to thy side (To guard) against fear. Those are the two credentials From thy Lord to Pharaoh And his Chiefs: for truly They are a people Rebellious and wicked." S. 28:29-33
Of some messengers We have already told thee the story; of others We have not;- AND TO MOSES ALLAH SPOKE DIRECT;- S. 4:164
In the Bible, Moses literally knew God face to face and to a lesser extinct, had Allah speak to him directly according to the Quran. The Bible also shows that Jesus saw the Father:
"No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father." John 6:46
Jesus said to him, "I AM the way, the truth, and THE LIFE. NO ONE comes to the Father EXCEPT THROUGH ME. "If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and FROM NOW ON YOU KNOW HIM AND HAVE SEEN HIM." Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us." Jesus SAID TO HIM, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? HE WHO HAS SEEN ME HAS SEEN THE FATHER; so how can you say, "Show us the Father'? John 14:6-9
Like Moses Jesus saw God and even mentioned to his followers that those who literally looked at him was seeing God almighty which would be Blasphemy because this was saying that he was God. Since Muslims like using Deuteronomy 34:10, among other verses, in claming that Muhammad was a prophet like Moses we reiterate what it says again:
This face to face constituted as seeing him etc.
“Since then, no prophet has risen in Israel like Moses, whom the Lord knew FACE TO FACE, who did all those miraculous signs and wonders the Lord sent him to do in Egypt-to Pharaoh and to all his officials and to his whole land. For no one has ever shown the mighty power or performed the awesome deeds that Moses did in the sight of all Israel.” Deuteronomy 34:10-12
So we have seen that:
1. Moses and Jesus performed Miracles
2. Both were bretheren, not cousins like Ishmaelites such as Muhummad.
3. Both saw God face to face.
Conclusion: If Muhammad was to be a prophet like Moses he should experience the see God and perform miracles also. Did he do this? Read:
Failed to do miracles. Did he see God face to face, like Jesus and Moses:
I said to 'Aisha, "O Mother! Did Prophet Muhammad see his Lord?" Aisha said, "What you have said makes my hair stand on end! Know that if somebody tells you one of the following three things, he is a liar: Whoever tells you THAT MUHAMMAD SAW HIS LORD, IS A LIAR." Then Aisha recited the Verse:
'No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision. He is the Most Courteous Well-Acquainted with all things.' (6.103) 'It is not fitting for a human being that Allah should speak to him except by inspiration or from behind a veil.' (42.51) 'Aisha further said, "And whoever tells you that the Prophet knows what is going to happen tomorrow, is a liar." She then recited:
'No soul can know what it will earn tomorrow.' (31.34) She added: "And whoever tell you that he concealed (some of Allah's orders), is a liar." Then she recited: 'O Apostle! Proclaim (the Message) which has been sent down to you from your Lord..' (5.67) 'Aisha added. "But the Prophet saw Gabriel in his true form twice." (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 378)
Narrated Masruq:
'Aisha said, "If anyone tells you that MUHAMMAD HAS SEEN HIS LORD, HE IS A LIAR, for Allah says: 'No vision can grasp Him.' (6.103) And if anyone tells you that Muhammad has seen the Unseen, he is a liar, for Allah says: "None has the knowledge of the Unseen but Allah." (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 477)
Muhammad can't be a light until the world nor a prophet like Moses if he never even passed the criteria set up for Moses. The Bible clearly says that the prophet like Moses would see God face to face, and both the hadith and the Quran says that Muhammad never saw his lord and to believe that he did (Which would qualify him as a prophet like Moses) is a lie!!!
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