Is Jesus a WEAK GOD?

"A Refutation to BISMIKA ALLAHUMA's comments on Jesus not being able to save himself let alone be God"

Quennel Gale

Menj, web administrator of "Bismikaallahuma", recently made allegations about Jesus, on our message board, stressing his inability to save himself from the cross. As many Muslims before him, Menj believes that if Jesus is God, then God doesn’t die. If God does die, Muslims would contend that he is weak and therefore unable to save himself let alone be God. In this thorough response to Menj comments about Jesus we provide answers to Menj's questions on Jesus and the reason behind his crucifixion. After reading this article we believe that both Muslims and Christians will be able to see the reason behind Jesus death and resurrection.

It should be noted that Menj has not proven that Allah is the true god of the Bible. It is very common for Muslim apologists to assume many preconceived notions when arguing for the legitimacy of Islamic theological dogma. It is obvious to the reader that Menj has clearly established in his mind that Allah is the one true God and therefore is the final authority on any matter dealing with Jesus and the message of the Bible. However many Islamic apologists overlook one common message taught by the Quran, which is its purpose to verify earlier scripture. Here we contend ourselves in directing you to what Muhammad said in these Quranic verses:

According to the Quran we see that Muhammad's message is:

1. A VERIFICATION of the Torah and Gospel
2. A VERIFICATION of the book of Moses in Arabic tongue
3. The SCRIPTURES OF MEN OF OLD in Plain Arabic Speech.

If the Quran is verification of the Book of Moses or the Torah it would point the Muslim to Jesus Christ who said this:

If Muhammad claims to be no bringer of anything new, why is he not pointing Muslims to Jesus? There is nothing in the scriptures of old dealing with "Allah" the common name for the Arab high god deity. The Quran itself tells you how to verify whether its message is true or not:

The Quran itself requires that Muhammad himself ask the people of the gospel whether his message was true. There is nowhere in Islamic history in which he sought their guidance to verify the content and the accuracy of his message. This is one very important fact that isn’t commented upon by Islam or Muslim apologists such as Menj. As insignificant as it may seem, this can be the difference between one’s eternal destination. If Muhammad would have checked with the “people of the book” (Christians particularly in this case since we are dealing with the death of Jesus Christ) he would have seen that his message wasn't from the true and living God. Therefore

1. Since the Quran doesn't agree with previous scripture how can the Muslim prove that it was from God?

2. Menj claims that his lord told him “this and that” but he hasn’t verified that it was even from God.

Notice again that Muhammad said that he came to verify what was said by Moses in particular. Let’s define what verify means for you:

Since Muhammad came to verify what Moses said in the Book of Moses, the Torah, here is what Moses said:

In the Deuteronomy 18:17-20, God gives the first test on how to distinguish between a false prophet and a true messenger of God through the words of Moses. Before Muslims assume that God just spoke through Muhammad they need to see if Muhammad passed the test that God instituted in the Torah. It was this message which Muhammad himself claimed to verify and confirm.

1. Notice that God says this prophet must speak in his name (YHWH)

Did Muhammad once call god's name YHWH or an acceptable synonym of this name? No.

2. Notice that a prophet can't speak in the name of foreign gods. This means any other God other than YHWH.

Even in the Arabic Bible we turn your attention to this:

Wouldn't this be the perfect time to tell Moses that God's name was "ALLAH" here? If God's name was truly Allah then it would be rendered like this:

Notice that the Arabic Bible gives us clear evidence that it was "in the name of YHWH God, Merciful and Gracious", not Allah. Muhammad never spoke in the name of YHWH therefore he failed the prophethood test which he claims to verify. The Quran tries to downplay this by saying:

Notice that this verse doesn't verify the book of Moses since God explicitly told Moses:

Even the Arabic shows that god's name is YAHWEH:

Contrary to popular Muslim belief, you can't call on God by whatever name since he says that:

Muhammad failed the first part of the test, instituted by God through Moses, hence he isn't a prophet of God. For Menj to believe the Quran blindly is not proof of Muhammad’s divine inspiration. If a prophet comes on the scene and then says “I have a message from God” but yet proceeds to alter or change what God previously said then he must be rejected as being a messenger of God. Menj can't prove whether Muhammad is a prophet nor if his words were inspired by God. He has to totally accept Muhammad's sole word at face value and no matter how he argues against the need for Jesus to die, his stance is very unsubstantiated at best.

Maybe so but to believe that this god is the true living God requires sole belief that Muhammad's message didn't contain any errors. This is blind faith and it proves nothing.

First off Menj’s comments are very flawed and void of understanding of the Christian scriptures and Jesus purpose for coming as a messenger of God. He seems to believe that because Jesus was crucified that he was weak and unable to protect himself. This Muslim accusation may seem to make sense on the surface however one who is truly interested in learning the purpose behind Jesus' ministry should investigate his intent upon dying. Like many Muslim apologists, Menj does not understand the scriptures for Jesus himself said:

The so called weak god, according to Menj’s comments, explicitly said that HE CAME TO LAY DOWN HIS LIFE while having the power to raise himself up from the dead. This doesn't sound weak to me. Can Menj or Muhammad raise themselves from the dead? No. So who is weak now? In the scriptures, Jesus again reiterated that he would raise himself up again:

Only God can raise people from the dead on his own accord. Notice how Jesus explicitly tells them that HE HIMSELF WILL RAISE HIMSELF FROM THE DEAD. By not having a thorough knowledge of Christians’ belief it is easy and common for Muslim apologists to misinterpret what they believe. To call Jesus weak is foolish since his purpose was to come and lay down his life and raise it up again. Jesus told his enemies to their face that they couldn't kill him unless he allowed!! Not only that, he had the nerve to tell them that he will raise himself from the dead!!! Jesus was consistently followed by people who wanted to kill him as the Bible shows:

Here we see Jesus' sovereign power and control over his environment and the people, being able to slip through their midst at will! The people tried to seize Jesus, but could not lay a hand on him since it was not his time to die.

The “weak god”, Jesus could even control the crowds' intent of seizing him simply through his preaching! This actually proves that Jesus has the unlimited power to guide and control the crowds solely by his word. Notice that THERE WERE GUARDS who couldn't even arrest this weak man!! ONE person against an entire crowd!! Wow he sure is weak.

Here the weak peaceful Jesus allowed the crowd to take him to the cliff but when they tried to kill him, HE WALKED RIGHT THROUGH THEM WITHOUT A HAND BEING LAID ON HIM. Jesus TOTAL CONTROL over his environment allowed him to walk through mobs without a single hand being laid upon him. . If anything, these verses all demonstrate that far from being afraid and weak, Jesus was in complete control over the actions of his enemies and could do as he was pleased. Jesus purpose was to die as it was prophesied by the scriptures:

The purpose for dying was shown here:

His purpose for dying is to destroy the devil who had the power of death. How do you destroy death? By dying and rising from the dead into everlasting life!!! This submission until death could only be accomplished by someone who was STRONG. The Bible continues to give us the reason why the death of Jesus was necessary:

Jesus death, burial and resurrection shows that he is God and all powerful. The entire new testament revolves around his crucifixion. So great was Jesus work until God himself said this in Hebrews about Jesus:

Jesus himself reiterates in Revelations that he is all powerful and is the one now in charge of life and death. Christ says this in the final book of the bible:

Unlike Muhammad, Jesus had total control over his death and he holds the keys to death and hades. Menj continues in his comments against accepting why Jesus couldn't save himself by saying:

I believe Menj is following one who truly is dreaming, called Muhammad Ibn Abdallah, founder of Islam. His call to prophethood was based on a dream:

Now since Menj is so bent on being sarcasting with his comments on "someone dreaming" then it should be pointed out to him that Muhammad's inspiration can be argued to be nothing more than the figment of his imagination. We find it strange that his prophet's revelations had to begin WITH A DREAM.

The proof is actually the “lack of proof” of love for his creation shown by Allah. Muslims have a very hard time understanding why God would allow his son to die, if he had one in the first place, and they believe that if God would allow such an unjust action to befall a prophet that it would somehow diminish God’s sovereignty over his creation. However, noted Christian apologist, John Gilchrist illustrates just how this can be turned against them:

In comparison, Christianity actually demonstrates that God has a greater affection for his creation as opposed to Islam where God never interacts with man. This is also a strike against Muhammad since Muslims have no way of verifying if he even brought the true words of God. If God never presented himself to Muhammad while allowing his message to contradict other previous scriptures, how can Muslims believe that Muhammad is a prophet of God? Simple, they just blindly accept what Muhammad says and nothing more. Jesus, Moses and others saw God while the Hadith says this about Muhammad:

And,

Muhammad never personally interacted with God like the biblical prophets. He didn't even see God which was a requirement to be “like the prophet like unto Moses”. Muhammad didn’t even speak in the name of YHWH or some acceptable synonym of his name which disqualifies him as being a prophet of God in any instance. Any prophet must speak in the name of the LORD/YHWH which is a requirement. We have presented our proof and found out that the idea of Muhammad mentioned the words of God as being unfounded. Muslim attacks against the crucifixion of Jesus only show their unfound knowledge of Christianity. Jesus wasn’t weak and the father’s love for his creation through the crucifixion is unmatched by Islam. Christians personally know the love of God; Muslims don’t since Allah doesn’t personally interact with his followers.

Therefore if any Muslim tries to deginerate the message of the cross and claim that Jesus is weak and couldn't save himself. Jesus answer by saying "THAT IS WHY HE IS STRONG BECAUSE HE CAME NOT TO SAVE HIMSELF BUT TO SAVE YOU AND ME". Continue by saying "THE REASON HE DIED WAS SO I COULD LIVE". "THROUGH HIS DEATH I AM FREE FOREVER FROM THE SNARES OF DEATH. HE CAME TO DIE SO HE COULD DO THIS:

Therefore we can say this:

Muslims constantly live in fear of death, including their prophet Muhammad, who did't know what would happen to him. Christians never have to experience this problem because our founder conquered death. The reason Muhammad lived in fear of death was because he didn't have Jesus.

We are grateful for Menj bringing up this topic dealing with if "Jesus was so weak he couldn't save himself from the crucifixion let alone be God". Our next installment will further expound on this issue along with comparing whether Jesus and his followers are weak or Allah. In conclusion, we can say that Jesus was anything but weak, but the almighty saviour who conquered death and destroyed the devil. He beat Satan at his own game by dying and rising again. God bless All.

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